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Slave Elena by jaimito Slave Elena by jaimito
Just an experiment.
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k20k20 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
sexy
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Cavalierstylez Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Why must she be a slave. It's kind of disrespectful considering her race and all.
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jaimito Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013
It's just fan art, don't take it seriously.
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Cavalierstylez Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Whenever you choose to display your artwork on a PUBLIC FORUM then you leave yourself open to criticism good or bad. However I choose to recieve your artwork is my choice good or bad.If I were you i would be more conscious about the type of artwork i display especially when it comes to things like race, history,religion, politics, etc. because people will take it how they want to take it. Telling someone " not to take it seriously" is pointless & defeats the purpose because we all display our artwork for people to see or enjoy. So I would also say to you if you don't like what a person has to say about your "Slave Elena" drawing then you shouldn't have put it out there in the first place. But for both our sakes you won't EVER have to worry about me commenting on your work because after today I have chosen NEVER to look at your work again. There are plenty of other talented artists on DA with non-offensive art to see and enjoy.
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Razaphael Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
as someone descended from jamaican, barbados, and ottoman slaves, i humbly request that you shut your mouth and go away
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Cavalierstylez Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well as aomeone who is African American and who DISPLAYS their art in a PUBLIC forum such as your yourself, I'm sure you can understand why upon seeing the popular character seemingly portrayed in such a way, that it would cause someone to say something. But clearly, from your response you appear to be someone who is very sensative when it comes to people commenting or questioning your artwork. It makes since though, being that you're an artist and all, so I get the whole sensitivity bit when people critique your work. But speaking of your work, you actually have some nice SF illustrations and appear to be very talented. A word of advice though, if you're going to be posting your work online, On a public forum, on SOMEBODY ELSE'S website, then be prepared to recieve a little criticism every now and then other maybe it's you that should shut their mouth and go away--Stay Creative!
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Razaphael Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
well, i don't know if you could exactly call me AFRICAN american! :) my mom's family is a mixed (emphasis on the mixed) race family from Ireland. several were shipped there during the pre-antislavery movement in Britain & escaped to join the Irish  rebellion ('cause the Pope had officially decried slavery a century prior), and several others were brought over as indentured wage-workers (little better than slaves, of course) during the potato famine in an attempt by the british to outnumber the native irish. instead, these ancestors heavily mixed themselves with the local clans. when my (biracial black) great-grandfather moved to America, he married a biracial irishwoman, and my grandfather was the whitest looking of his (legitamite) kids, asides from his facial structure. He in turn married a pure white irishwoman from an allied clan/family, and as a result my particular line of the family has always looked caucazoid. However, to people in the know, we were still considered "black" due to the one-drop stigma, and along with our blatantly black & biracial relatives (and later immigrant additions to the family), we could never escape that. as a result, my family has always maintained ties to the black community (in New England & Ireland, at least), and as such i was raised in a highly black-influenced culture.
My Dad's family is from a Kotermensch clan, which by definition makes us mixture of various immigrant minorities in German & Austria that often were by definition not caucasian. Asides from Rhineland Bastard (descendants of Black French Foreign Legionaries who had kids during WW1) Russian, Magyar & Wallachian, his family has Cossack Parsi, Mizrahim Jews, Yazidi Romani , Mongoli-Kazak, Syrio-Egyptian Druze, and Sufi Turk all in his blood. All of the aforementioned ethnoreligious groups (save for the Mongoli-Kazak & first three) are descendants of or directly associated with the Mesosemetic (middle-eastern, eurasian & afro-arab) genetic phenotype (racial group).
So, i really don't know if one could call me african american, but i'm honestly curious to what you would say on the subject. most of my family (cousins to distant cousins & clan members) say that i'm either black or mesosemetic rather than white, but they're all biased! :) most of my friends say that because of lineage & my cultural upbringing, that's enough to not be classified as white (despite), but there are others that say differently.
i'm truly interested in your opinion, so feel free to respond at your leisure.
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Razaphael Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I thank you for your kind words about my, lord knows that i get little enough reviews (positive or negative) as it is. However i must say this, as to why I responded to your comment-
the reason why I've jumped to this artists defense is because the artist has already stated that they meant no disrespect. one continuously emphasizing the negative connotations only perpetuates this conflict. this hence makes ones criticism unconstructive. besides. for all one knows, it could be someone of Black descent enslaving her. god knows how often that was. or, "slave" could be merely used as term in sexual foreplay.
in this instance, you did not appear to have sought to delve deeper beyond initial impressions & ask what the artist was trying to convey before you made your assumptions. if you didn't like the coloring or texture, criticize that. i personally do not find blatantly racist or insensitive enough to even bother interpreting it in such a negative way. i advise that you apologize to the artist & provide a more constructive criticism.
other than that, i reverently do respect your critique as purveyor, and most sincerely appreciate your appraisal of my own work.
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ang1990 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014
Here's a simple idea.... if you don't like it then don't look at it. It's a good piece of work. Just because you dislike it doesn't mean the other people looking at it don't like it. As jaimito said: It's fan art... some of the fans may like looking at her this way. If you're not one of them then walk away and let others enjoy.
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Razaphael Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
* the piece
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